Ep. 139 - South Africa: Conversations with the past, present and future | Penuel The Black Pen

In this episode I have a conversation with Penuel The Black Pen, a South African online commentator, entrepreneur, podcast host and interrogator of powerful ideas. We discuss what is holding many people back in southern Africa, the power of frank conversations, exposing your audience to ideas or people that might make them uncomfortable or angry, social media as medium for exploring ideas and more.